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6 Post subject: Other O/R mapping tools for Eclipse?  PostPosted: Mar 02, 2004 - 12:43 AM






I have looked at the Persistence plug-ins for Eclipse at www.persistence.com

Are there other O/R mapping and caching solutions available for Eclipse?
 
   
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Mar 03, 2004 - 12:44 AM






Hibernate
 
   
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Mar 03, 2004 - 12:58 PM






Cocobase also has an Eclipse plugin, see http://www.thoughtinc.com/eclipse/
 
   
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12 Post subject: Mapping  PostPosted: Mar 05, 2004 - 03:31 AM
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Hello,

Torque and Hybernate mappings will be available very soon inside EclipseDatabase plugin.
Specific UML JDO Profile based on EclipseUML/EclipseJDO is being developped by Versant France. The pricing will be about $ 200 per developer. It will be based on UML 2.0 advanced profiles.
We have just finished the first step of the Database Modeling Tool. We hope to finish our bottom up approach by the end of June 2004.
The modeling top down approach is UML JDO Profile developed by Versant.
Enjoy modeling your database, reversing and modifing more than 23 database and finally connecting this data with libe bidirectional code and model synchronisation, J2EE, any XDcolet extensions such as Struts etc.. and finally using advanced JSF and a native modeling of your Eclipse open source JSP editor.
EMF is coming too http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/mod ... age_12.gif
http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/mod ... age_12.gif
Do not be affraid it will be easy to use .

Blade,
Omondo
 
   
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5 Post subject:   PostPosted: Mar 08, 2004 - 11:59 AM






There is also something called Jaxor which was announced on TheServerSide

http://jaxor.sourceforge.net
 
   
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Mar 10, 2004 - 11:02 AM






take a look at http://www.spadesoft.com - they have a very impressive JDO plugin for eclipse
 
   
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Post subject: Lots more ORM options here  PostPosted: Mar 12, 2004 - 01:31 PM






There are a bunch more ORM options here:

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http://www.eclipse-workbench.com/jsp/pl ... jsp?cat=26

The question is, how many of these have been used outside of an Intro to Computing 101 classroom?

Twisted Evil
 
   
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Mar 26, 2004 - 12:23 PM






For fast development, probably any of these JAR to ORM solutions will work. For scalable deployment, there are fewer choices - at SD West called Java a Big-Honking-Feels-Good-Runs-Like-Crap Anti-Pattern Smile
 
   
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Mar 27, 2004 - 02:47 AM






Scalable deployment ? using RDBMS or ODBMS !!!!
We do not suppose what is better or not, we help modeling database and let specialists decide what they need for scalable deployment.
Our goal is to have technological bridges between the development and the scalable deployment needs.

Blade
Omondo
 
   
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Mar 31, 2004 - 05:29 PM






I'm not sure I fully follow what you are saying, but there is a big difference between OR mapping for an ODB and OR mapping for an RDB (for starters, you don't need an OR mapping for an ODB Wink

In theory, there is no need to make allowances for practical data mapping considerations when designing the object model. In practice there is a huge need to understand the physical data implications of the object model when designing the application.

For example, often the application developer has no control over the data model, and so must make practical compromises in the object model to allow for the actual data structures being accessed. Even in a green field situation, there are practical consequences to decisions about the data model, for example when deciding whether to create an abstract type "address" which is embedded in the "customer" object versus having relationship between a customer object and an address object.
 
   
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Post subject: mapping or no mapping !!  PostPosted: Apr 01, 2004 - 05:18 AM
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Ok, my post was not clear Embarassed
EclipseUML Sutdio will work at different levels:
Eclipse Database is focus on database and it is not a pure UML solution.
Eclipse Database mappings (Torque, Hybernate and others) will generate code from database. Developers should be able to select the best mapping solution and customize it considering their specific needs. We consider that out of the box tools do not cover advanced developers needs.
EclipseUML is having a tigh integration with Versant (world leading ODB) using JDO profiles Laughing no mapping is needed with this great database.
We have two tools: EclipseUML Enterprise Edition is developer oriented, and UML2 for Architects coming soon. This is a pure MDA approach in which JDO profiles will be possible and the information will be saved in XMI 2.0.
Now the last challenge is scalability ? In my previous email, I suggested that ODB could be the solution !!
Blade,
Omondo
 
   
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14 Post subject: JavaWorld article on Deep OR Mapping  PostPosted: Apr 06, 2004 - 05:49 PM






There is a pretty good article on some of the tough issues in O/R mapping in JavaWorld here:

http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-04-2004/jw-0405-bottleneck-p3.html

There is also a discussion of the same article in The Server Side here:

http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.tss?thread_id=24932#116887
 
   
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Post subject: Re: mapping or no mapping !!  PostPosted: Apr 06, 2004 - 05:56 PM



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Blade wrote:
Ok, my post was not clear Embarassed
EclipseUML Sutdio will work at different levels:
... EclipseUML is having a tigh integration with Versant (world leading ODB) using JDO profiles Laughing no mapping is needed with this great database...Now the last challenge is scalability ? In my previous email, I suggested that ODB could be the solution !!
Blade,
Omondo


Umm - if your solution to OR mapping is to eliminate the OR mapping by using an OODB, doesn't that kind of side step the problem? Or to put it differently, how often is it acceptable to the business to tell them that the way to get a good OR mapping is to eliminate the standard relational database and replace it with a new object database? Rolling Eyes
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Feb 28, 2005 - 03:38 AM






may be try this http://www.visual-paradigm.com/dbva.php
 
   
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Post subject: Re: Mapping  PostPosted: Jun 28, 2005 - 07:30 PM






Blade wrote:
Hello,

Torque and Hybernate mappings will be available very soon inside EclipseDatabase plugin.
Specific UML JDO Profile based on EclipseUML/EclipseJDO is being developped by Versant France. The pricing will be about $ 200 per developer. It will be based on UML 2.0 advanced profiles.
We have just finished the first step of the Database Modeling Tool. We hope to finish our bottom up approach by the end of June 2004.
The modeling top down approach is UML JDO Profile developed by Versant.
Enjoy modeling your database, reversing and modifing more than 23 database and finally connecting this data with libe bidirectional code and model synchronisation, J2EE, any XDcolet extensions such as Struts etc.. and finally using advanced JSF and a native modeling of your Eclipse open source JSP editor.
EMF is coming too http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/mod ... age_12.gif
http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/mod ... age_12.gif
Do not be affraid it will be easy to use .

Blade,
Omondo
 
   
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